The past few days have been eerily quiet over at the Camp Blood: Friday the 30th convention forums: www.fridaythe30th.com. No new word from John Gray, the man who is running the convention. No new word on why he is still refusing to refund customers who he promised just a few short weeks ago would get 100% refunds if they could not attend the new Convention date. While there was no news from Gray, our attorney called this morning with some very intriguing news.
To preface this piece of news, let me remind you of some excerpts from correspondence between John Gray and the staff of the Blood Sprayer (namely myself):
“I’ve had to have him do this now 3 times I think? Its a fair and standard warning, come at me with a lawsuit, I’m ready to either have the show or protect myself since TX Fear Fest is an LLC (go read up on how if backed into a corner, I will be just fine, hence the LLC and people will really get screwed, just ask Donald Trump who has filed Chapter 11 18 times), if any one of the 20 some odd people out of the thousands who have bought tickets want to go against someone who has been in the financial industry for 16 years, feel free. But please do as my attorney instructed, send an address so we can send you served and everyone else involved.”
“amazing what my attorney can find in 5 minutes, where shall I have you served? I have everyone elses information already.” “Well let’s see after 13 years of finance, insurance fraud, skip tracing, collections, and my attorney who has unlimited resources… I can get whatever information needed.”
“My attorney is doing me a courtesy by sending an email, he talks legally and officially, I have to pay him, so if I have to pay him, I might as well just go forward with the information I have had on your pals, and now you. I suggest you just stop while you are still ahead. Only my personal advice though.”
“you can give me YOUR attorneys information and then we will have them hash it out, if it costs me money so be it, but thankfully, he’s an inlaw and I won’t have to pay him right away. Go ahead and send it and he will get a call promptly with his firm information, bar number, whatever else you need.”
“Anyways Kristy of bloodsprayer, you good in my book, just hate you put yourself in such a bad spot with me and my legal proceedings”
It can be deemed from this that John Gray is represented by a law firm, and that lawfirm has helped Gray in matters such as this before. We received an email purportedly from a James Chapman Jr Law Firm the day after this exchange between Gray and myself.
Message Body: This firm represents Mr. John A. Gray.
It has come to my attention that a recent “blog” has been started concerning my client John A. Gray, CEO of Texas Fear Fest LLC. Several false and defamatory allegations have been made about my client by several members of various forums, more importantly a “Kristi” (an obvious internet handle) who started this blog, and several other members of your website and or blog. Obviously, most of these people have been smart enough to hide behind screen names, but my client has your names and and asked me to keep them out of this email, as we want to make this as simple and to the point as possible.
There have been various allegations, but more importantly that my client has knowingly taken money from patrons of Texas Fear Fest and canceled the show without options of refund are simply untrue. Such statements constitute libel per se, an actionable tort subjecting all parties to liability for both actual and punitive damages.In addition, my clients civil rights have been violated by posting personal information on the internet, slander, defamation of character by reading, making copies of, and distributing personal and confidential information to others online, via email, text messages, and flat out harassment of my client. This is a blatant violation of my clients right to privacy, enacted by the U.S. Congress in 1996. The act helps people keep their information private for a reason. These are obvious and desperate attempts at intimidating and embarrassing my client. If this case were to be presented, “as is” in a court of law it would be thrown out immediately.
As a result of your negligence in handling your “internet forums” “blogs” or whatever you refer to them as, my client has been embarrassed and humiliated publicly. Determining your liability in this for the purpose of making service of process can be easily accomplished through a subpoena of all parties involved within this debacle.
Your web site and all parties involved are and have now made similarly actionable statements, straying beyond mere expressions of opinion and making false and defamatory statements of alleged fact. To permit these actions is utterly reckless and actionable.
Mr. Gray demands that you remove all blogs, public postings, and anything that has to do with Texas Fear Fest LLC., Mr. John A. Gray, and his family. I highly recommend you take him up on the offer before we get into damages, defamation of character, pain and suffering, and lost wages.
This is also notice that you and your affiliates are to immediately cease and desist, and that no other information will be posted regarding my client. In addition, if further questioning of my client is required, you will need to notify this office via email and my client at least 48 hours in advance. I will be present with my client during said questioning, and as you can imagine, walking into your offices with legal counsel is only going to make things look worse for all parties involved. We do not mind traveling and will be glad to take this on a case by case, and or individual basis.
In closing, this is your one opportunity to resolve this matter without legal expense and exposure to liability and damages, not to mention national media exposure. My client is willing to drop these matters should you follow our course of action.
If we do not get a response by email from an authorized officer from all parties included in this email regarding this matter within 72 hours, further legal action will be taken.
For future reference, here is the legal disclaimer posted on the website that protects my client from people like yourselves, it’s called a “hold harmless” for those who don’t understand the way these types of things work: (read carefully)
CAMP BLOOD: FRIDAY THE 30TH’ assumes no responsibility for your personal property, nor will be held responsible for any personal injury or sickness. By attending ‘CAMP BLOOD: FRIDAY THE 30TH’ you agree to allow your image to be used on our website and in news documentaries or stories, either filmed by ‘CAMP BLOOD: FRIDAY THE 30TH’ or other entities. All dates, venues and guests are considered tentative and subject to change. Check back frequently for updates.
NOTE: All tickets are non-refundable.
ABSOLUTELY NO AUDIO OR VIDEOTAPING ALLOWED AT ‘CAMP BLOOD: FRIDAY THE 30TH’ PANELS OR Q&A. Still photography is for personal use only – public dissemination and commercial use strictly prohibited.
In purchasing your ticket to ‘CAMP BLOOD: FRIDAY THE 30TH’, you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless from and against any and all claims, damages, losses and actions. In addition, when you click “purchase ticket” you also have to agree to the following:
All tickets are NON REFUNDABLE. Date and location subject to change at anytime, without notice.
By purchasing a ticket or vendor table to Camp Blood: Friday the 30th, you agree to these terms and a refund will only be issued if the show it self is canceled completely.
We are not responsible for travel fees, airline changes, lost wages, or anything of the sort.
And finally, our FAQ:
Are the tickets exchangeable or refundable?
NO. Like all event ticket purchases, Fear Fest tickets are Non-Refundable/Non-
Exchangeable. Date and location subject to change at anytime, without notice. By purchasing a ticket or vendor table to Camp Blood: Friday the 30th, you agree to these terms and a refund will only be issued if the show it self is canceled completely. We are not responsible for travel fees, airline changes, lost wages, or anything of the sort.
Again, we expect a prompt an immediate action. If not, please send along the an address, and a name of the owner of this web site so we can immediately serve them with a cease and desist order (via certified mail) and proceed accordingly.
This is merely a courtesy warning, if you do not comply withing the time frame given, we will pursue action by this time noted 12:33pm CST on Friday, January 21, 2011.
In addition you do not have my permission nor a right to post this on any public blog or forum. Proceeding to so so will result in action from my firm directly.
Simply remove the blogs and this will be a lot easier for all parties involved.
JM Chapman Jr. Chapman Law Firm PC
Our attorney promptly emailed back and received no reply. She then proceeded to call the law firm in question. This morning she received a call back from James M Chapman Jr. He made it clear in no uncertain terms that not only does he not represent John Gray, but he has also never heard of John Gray nor had any sort of correspondence with him. Furthermore, he was severely angry that someone would try and impersonate him, something that is a legal offense. Mr Chapman also made it clear that he does not usually correspond by email, especially not in cases like this, and additionally that his email is not originated from a gmail account when he does use it to communicate with clients or other parties. To recap: Attorney James M Chapman Jr, the name that has been used in any sort of legal correspondence regarding Camp Blood does not represent John Gray. Attorney James M Chapman Jr has never heard of John Gray and has never had any sort of correspondence with him regarding lawsuits. Attorney James M Chapman Jr made it clear that impersonating an attorney in any sort of correspondence is a legal offense. Attorney James M Chapman Jr is not happy with the fact that his name is being used in such a manner.
We will fully concede there is a possibility that there could be two James M Chapman Jr’s within the same radius in Texas, and that if there is, it could be another one that represents John Gray. At post time, we have still to hear from the email address which our first “cease and desist” warning came from.
One additional note, the Better Business Bureau has given Texas Fear Fest LLC, the company which John Gray runs his events under, a grade of F. If you remember back to your school days, F is the lowest grade you can possibly get. You can view their report here: www.bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/fan-clubs/texas-fear-fest-in-lewisville-tx-90230112. In plain terms it states that because of continued neglect in terms of customer acknowledgment for refunds, and not responding to customers, they receive the lowest grade possible for being a trusted and/or accredited business.
Finally, we did some extra research to see how simple it is to create an LLC without having use of an atttorney. It’s fairly simple. Here are but one of the many online resources that can show you how: forms.findlaw.com/do-it-yourself-llc.html
Post by teeshirtjoe on Jan 24, 2011 22:48:49 GMT -5
Well...he's fucked now. Can't believe he was dumb enough to name drop a real attoreny in his line of bullshit. He could have just kept saying 'my attorney' and he would have fooled or scared most, but this....whatta maroon.
Post by Chunderstorm on Jan 25, 2011 14:31:02 GMT -5
Adrienne King Fan Page "I want to thank Kristy Jett of BloodSprayer.com for digging out the truth for the Friday the 13th fans regarding the status of the Texas CAMP BLOOD reunion. I can confirm that Betsy, Ari, Amy, Lar, Kane & I will NOT be attending what we had all hoped was going to be the rescheduling of the August 13th 2010 convention this May 13th, 2011."
Post by rayboucher on Jan 25, 2011 20:50:56 GMT -5
I'll just come right out and say it, and hope nobody on this site catches heat for it. I said it a couple of years ago on a gcast when me and Jay were representing DeadPit at Fear Fest 2. Here it goes - JOHN GRAY WAS, IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A FUCKING LIAR. I made a feature-length doc of our exploits that some of you got to see, and in my opinion, the highlight of it was when I had a meltdown in our hotel room about what a big fucking liar this guy was. We were promised unlimited access to every celebrity there (even Robert Englund) to do interviews with. I said it then, I'll say it now. John Gray lied to us, they lied to YOU. I'll post a section of this doc on my youtube page in a couple of days for those of you who never saw it. It speaks for itself. I've even read posts from Gray that blamed shit on the "blizzard" that befell DFW during the show - we have video evidence that the SNOW AND ICE WERE COMPLETELY GONE Friday morning before the show started. We also have evidence that the Alamo Drafthouse was ON SITE Friday am, so Gray can't blame them for not getting to the show in time to bring a print of one of the FTT movies to the con. I have no idea why I'm still so angry about this years after the fact except that I was led to believe me and Jay could do CK and UB and all you fans right and give some good quality interviews off the con floor and make a special presentation. As much as I love horror movies and would love to do something "within the industry", I am at the age, and have been OF the age, that doing interviews at cons for fans to watch will probably be the pinnacle of my success. I was happy to go that route until I had a sawed-off tree bark cock broke off in my ass by the FUCKING LIAR JOHN GRAY at Fear Fest 2. Let me close by saying THE COMMENTS AND OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THE POST ARE THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE POSTER AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CREATORS AND/OR STAFF OF DEADPIT.COM. I threw that in there because I'd hate for a fake lawyer to slap me with some kind of fake C&D.
Can anyone post this on the Camp Blood forum at Guts and Gory?... I would post it myself, but like most fans I am already banned from there for asking questions about Camp Blood. I think other fans who are unaware of what's going on, need to know. Plus it would nice to see what John Gray replies back.
If anyone can post this, please start a new thread, titled --- "All fans please read this"
I am posting this, as I think the fans have the right to some answers regarding Camp Blood.
1) Betsy Palmer, Amy Steel, Kane Hodder, Stu Charno, Thom Mathews, Melanie Kinnaman, Tiffany Helm and Ron Sloan have all confirmed that they will NOT be attending Camp Blood... Yet they are all still named on the Camp Blood site as attending the convention. Why?
2) Bill Butler, Stu Charno and Kelly Hu have all said they have never heard about the convention, yet they were added to the guest list. Why?
3) Tim Beal did not get you to move the venues. The Crown Hotel will openly tell you, if you ask, that John Grey never put down the deposit on the ballrooms... hence they let someone else who actually had money, hold an event there.
4) Why is it when you call the Crowne Hotel to book a room for Camp Blood in May, they say they have no event booked for the Weekend of May 13-15 2011. Why is that?
5) Why did you tell everyone this was an official Friday convention, with permission from WB, Paramount and New Line…. When infact it wasn’t and they threatened to sue you if you didn’t take down their logos?
6) Why were you able to update the site and remove the logos for WB, Paramount and New Line but they still couldn’t manage to remove the “guests” whom they know for a fact will not be attending?
7) Why did you tell the fans that all celebs had signed a contract, when infact most of them have said they did NOT and can prove it. Why did you say they did?
8) Bill Moseley and Michael Berryman have no idea about any appearance at Camp Blood despite being announced as a celebrity panel moderators. Why is this?
Celebrity quotes about John Gray
Adrienne King ---
I want to thank Kristy Jett of BloodSprayer.com for digging out the truth for the Friday the 13th fans regarding the status of the Texas CAMP BLOOD reunion. I can confirm that Betsy, Ari, Amy, Lar, Kane & I will NOT be attending what we had all hoped was going to be the rescheduling of the August 13th 2010 convention this May 13th, 2011.
Personally, I am so sorry that the Friday the 13th fans have been mislead & treated in such an unconscionable manner. Hopefully, this will all be resolved positively & the fans will receive their refunds.
Hopefully, now that the facts are coming out there will be a legal way to go after Gray & make him refund all the $$ he pocketed…. I take this so personally because F13 fans are so wonderful & loyal & the idea that this guy has been lying to everyone for so long... Karma, they'll be payback.
Amy Steel ---
I will never work with this promoter again, and I will never be involved in any Fearfest convention.
Melanie Kinnaman ---
MONSTER-MANIA "RETURN TO CAMP CRYSTAL LAKE" Will be my only Friday The13th Reunion Show. Looking forward to seeing you there.
Lar Park Lincoln ---
I dislikes John Gray and his work ethics… I personally contacted all the female actors that he claims will be at the show to cancel and not go to his shows. Most told me they are not going and he needs to remove their faces from the Friday The 30th website or they are going to sue him also.
Post by rayboucher on Jan 25, 2011 22:12:01 GMT -5
Playing the devil's advocate here - me and Jay were able to get quite a few notable interviews at FF2. All of them COMPLETELY WITHOUT the help of John Gray. These "celebs" are usually very genial, and will sit with you for a few minutes on camera. I remember I interviewed Gunnar Hansen, Lou Perryman (RIP, in an interview that was featured on some local news sites after his murder), and who can forget that memorable "infomercial" I conducted with Diamond Dallas Page about YRG - we got Ted White that year, Miko Hughes, "Madman" Paul Ehlers, guys from Troll 2, PJ Soles, Ari Lehman, and even Kane Hodder made an appearance on camera while I was interviewing Ari. Lots of others. The guests are always so accomodating. I even pigeonholed Robert Englund to give us one minute (and he stated, ONE MINUTE) but we couldn't get the camera ready in time. I was chastised by somebody after the fact that "that's not the way you get interviews" but I didn't care. The bottom line is, as an "amateur videographer", I have never met a guest at one of these shows that won't give you at least a sec or two. Jay and our mutual friend Barry even had a nice exchange (off camera) with John Carpenter in the elevator at TFW last year. It's the promoters like Gray who put a bad taste in everybody's mouth. Loyd Cryer, the promoter of TFW has ALWAYS been a total pro, giving a table in exchange for ads, giving us press passes, answering questions, and doing all of this from day one WITHOUT EVER PROMISING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SPOT IN THE SHOW. Loyd's M.O. is basically giving us a free spot to lounge and shill our shit, and the rest is up to us. I'm totally fine with that because there have never been promises made in the past. John Gray gave us promises that were never delivered upon. I feel he did so in an effort to get free advertising from DeadPit, and that's one of the reasons why I've always felt so fucked about it, some (almost) 3 years later.
Post by slasher108835 on Jan 25, 2011 22:53:38 GMT -5
after a few days of threatening him with the attorney general i get this:
Re: my refund!!Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:31 PM From: This sender is DomainKeys verified"John Gray" <email@example.com>Add sender to ContactsTo: "fred norway" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
What is your deal man? You still haven't given me a reason on why you need a refund, you just keep what I call "harassment" after I offered to help you out. You are just looking to pick a fight. And my attorney is family, much older and wiser than both of us, and has been an attorney for years. I'm not worried about your sickening comments. Just give me the reason you need a refund, and we will go from there.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fred norway <email@example.com> To: John Gray <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 9:07:26 PM Subject: Re: my refund!!
Post by rayboucher on Jan 25, 2011 23:28:22 GMT -5
I love this! One suggestion though - anybody who e-mails "Mr. Gray" - please be formal and very succinct with limited profanity - that'll send him downhill legally that terroristic threats. That being said, I hope this guy is raped in the ass with a burning hot skillet handle.
slasherfreak: Deadpit Forever !!!
Dec 23, 2017 8:48:33 GMT -5
newt138: It might have lived again if CK wasn't such a dick to all the fans. Admit it you stupid fuck Deadpit died cause you are a greedy fuck. Like when you created that bootleg site and tried to act like it wasn't you behind it. But you were stupid
May 1, 2018 0:48:10 GMT -5
newt138: and used the same email address you used to see hockey masks. How many fans did you drive away? How many fans did you rip off? You managed to drive off CodyLL who was a diehard fan. Face it you fat stupid fuck you killed deadpit. And don't have the balls
May 1, 2018 0:49:15 GMT -5
newt138: To admit to doing it.
May 1, 2018 0:49:46 GMT -5
bradtheman: Like all things in life, Deadpit Radio's run had to end at some point. Towards the end, Wes, Aaron, and Steve's hearts weren't in it and that it was time to move on. For what it's worth, I like to thank the threesome for inspiring me to do commentaries.
May 26, 2019 19:07:39 GMT -5
oldhorrorfan: Stuttering Steve Bumblefuck B Plan was worse than Aids on there and was one of the Main reasons the show went to shit so fast..
May 31, 2019 8:58:17 GMT -5
bradtheman: That and the horror genre was going down the tubes when Aaron and Wes signed off. It still is with the Child's Play remake and I Spit on Your Grave: Deja Vu as examples.
May 31, 2019 23:23:06 GMT -5
newt138: No mainstream horror was going down the tubes. There was plenty of good mainstream horror. But as fat fuck Wes told many people "Unless we get sent a copy for free I Aint reviewing it."
Jun 11, 2019 13:50:53 GMT -5
bradtheman: The 8th anniversary of my very first audio commentary is coming up. It was for Psycho IV: The Beginning. I like to thank Wes and Aaron for inspiring me to do some on my own.
Jul 1, 2019 22:45:10 GMT -5
psychostillvicious: Greetings one and all. Don't know if anyone remembers me, but whatever. I was a poster here many moons ago. God I loved Deadpit. I'm just strolling down memory lane after hearing some sad news from Wes on facebook. Long live DP.
Jul 25, 2019 14:15:25 GMT -5
bradtheman: I'm sorry about what Wes Vance is going through right now. My thoughts go to him and his family.
Jul 27, 2019 22:49:33 GMT -5